In reply to eggburt1952:
> ask yourself this question ...were cheating gloves used by the first ascentionists?
And ask yourself these questions:
Were cheating cams used by the first ascentionists?
Were cheating hexes used by the first ascentionists?
Were cheating harnesses used by the first ascentionists?
I could go on - but I won't! If it's any consolation, personally I also feel somewhat equivocal about jamming gloves (a generation thing maybe, for both of us?) But if we start applying retrospective style criteria to routes, well it all gets a bit crazy. Ultimately the only routes we'd have done in good style would have been the onsight solos.
Mick (getting crazier by the day...)