In reply to ksjs:
> (In reply to Dave Williams) I don't know the areas you mention but the approach does strike me as a peculiarly CC one.
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> Correct me if I'm wrong but the fact that 'nobody' climbs there suggests that there isn't sufficient climbing to warrant 2 new guides.
If you think 'nobody' climbs there, then you are (very sadly) mistaken. Your response confirms my long-held belief that many climbers think that there's nothing worth climbing between Tremadog and Pembroke. Those who are prepared to broaden their horizons will quickly realise how wrong they all are ...
> The 2nd one you mention is going to have a Meirionydd supplement when the CC will have recently published a definitive guide to the same area. What's going on there?
A Meirionydd NEW CLIMBS supplement will be included in the forthcoming Mid Wales guide. There's no plan to produce another definitive guide in the meantime. Please re-read my original post.
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> Also, Llanymynech and Pandy, are these really mid-Wales areas? I suppose they are but they seem quite far east.
As you realise, Mid Wales not only fills the middle bit between North and South Wales but also goes from the west coast to the English border so geographically they both are. Anyway, there's been no definitive coverage of either Pandy or Llanymynech for years. Would you prefer it stays this way?
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> Can someone please list any good stuff in the E3 - E5 range to convince me I have a total misconception of the area? I live in North Wales and have only made it as far as Craig yr Wrysgan and y Clipiau. I'd really like to know / believe there was loads more beyond these.
I can only suggest that you browse through a copy of the current guide to see what's available in the E3-E5 range. As jcm rightly says, there are enough climbs at that grade in the existing guide, in the Rhiniogydd, on Arenig Fawr, on Yr Aran and Cadair Idris to last a lifetime. Since the last guide came out, Martin Crocker, Terry Taylor and others have literally added hundreds more, from micro-route to multipitch in length.
HTH
Dave