In reply to Graham Hoey:
> Hi Chris,
> Well, I think we can agree that Nutcracker and Suicide Wall are not the same grade! Suicide Wall with the peg runner as led in 1946 would have been around E1 5b, whereas, even today with modern protection and sticky boots, Nutcracker is E5 6b for someone of Vin Ridgeway's height (approx 5' 9").
> Graham
Well Suicide Wall with a single peg runner would have had been more than E1 in my world! With the chockstone threaded (as for Tiger Traverse) I can't see Nutcracker being more than E2 (where did the 6b come from?).
If you doubt the ascent (and presumably Escape too) then who was telling fibs back then - a can of worms I would rather not peer into!
Chris